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#NOMOREBULLSHIT article#3: "April, 13th 2018: WIDOW REVEALS WHAT MEDICAL EXAMINER TOLD HER. . .

Personal criticisms of Vicky Karayiannis are from her public statements, claims,

multiple stories, antagonistic interactions personally witnessed on social media and her likely untruthfulness surrounding Chris's passing.


I do not encourage ill intent her way.



June, 5th/18.

On Thursday April, 12th Vicky had another television interview on The Dr. Oz show.

Many, including myself at the time, urged the TV personality via Twitter not to allow the airing of the coming episode due to Vicky’s continuous and highly suspect duplicity surrounding Chris’s death.

However, there's never been a personal interest in The Dr. Oz Show as a whole.

I can’t comment whether or not the program offers above average medical advise or education.


Since Vicky was able to appear on the program to discuss, yet again, Chris’s “relapse” that supposedly lead his “suicide” and, in my strong opinion, unusual behaviours of grief, it's assumed that the Dr. Oz crew did little research on the guest they chose to speak with.


Usually the case with any television host or podcaster without posing challenging questions.




Alt. Nation (April, 13th/18) transcribed Vicky's quotes from her interview with Dr. Oz.

Additionally, she allegedly met and had a discussion with the assistant medical examiner

Theodore Brown M.D..


However, Vicky's meeting with the assistant medical examiner is a strong falsehood.


Primarily, from a personal account witnessed in real time, (referenced below) her claim of the assistant medical examiner ruling Chris's death as ". . . the 'mechanical' cause of death,. . . "




FALSEHOOD #1: Chris Cornell's Wife Arrives In Detroit to Question Coroner About Rock Star's Death - The Blast (Oct, 6th/17)



There’s a story published last year on Friday, October 6th 2017 and first reported by

THE BLAST, that Vicky flew out to Detroit in Wayne County to meet with assistant medical examiner Theodore Brown M.D.


"Chris Cornell's wife, Vicky Cornell, just touched down in Detroit for the first time since her husband's death earlier this year — and she is there to speak to the Medical Examiner about the legendary rocker's cause of death.. . . "


Vicky supposedly made the trip to "question the cause of death" five months after Chris died.



It was also five months after Vicky had Chris's body cremated; Tuesday May, 23rd/2017,

6 days after Chris's death.


Chris Cornell's Remains Cremated Ahead of Private Funeral Service. - Blabbermouth.net (published Wednesday May, 24th/17.)

" . . . A full autopsy and results of toxicology tests are pending, although Cornell's wife has said he may have taken more of an anti-anxiety drug than he was prescribed. His family issued a statement Friday (May, 19th) questioning whether his death by hanging was intentional and if "substances contributed to his demise."



A MEETING NEVER HAPPENED. . .

It was with Alt. Nation’s article to follow, (Oct, 10th/2017)

CBS Detroit reported that Vicky and a man, Jeffrey L. Schulman, an insurance attorney and not an entertainment lawyer as CBS Detroit describes, were so late for their supposed meeting with the medical examiner that the appointment was cancelled.


Additionally, Vicky allegedly obtained slides of microscopic tissue samples.

There's been no word regarding the tissue samples since.

 


“Sources at the Wayne County Medical Examiner’s office confirmed to WWJ Newsradio 950 that Vicky Cornell arrived in Detroit last Friday with an entertainment attorney. They had a meeting scheduled with the Medical Examiner, but were so late that the Examiner wasn’t able to keep the appointment. The widow was able to pick up slides of microscopic tissue that were taken as evidence in the case.” - CBS Detroit





FALSEHOOD#2: "MECHANICAL CAUSE" NOT THE WORDS OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER.


Going back to the initial article discussed here (Alt. Nation; April, 13th/18) Vicky claimed,

and for the first time, she had a meeting with assistant medical examiner Theodore Brown M.D. She mentions that the medical examiner supposedly asserted that Chris's "suicide" was the “mechanical” cause of death.


She also described her meeting with the Detroit medical examiner over Chris’ cause of death.

“I asked him what he meant. I said to him, ‘What do you mean the drugs did not contribute to the cause of death?’ We know that he was impaired, I called the security guard to break down the door, it was clear, you know what was in his system.’ He said, ‘I’m not talking about mental impairment. I’m talking about the mechanical cause of death. The drugs did not have anything to do with how he actually died. They didn’t cause an overdose, they didn’t cause him to have a heart attack. I’m just saying that it didn’t contribute to the mechanical cause of death, I’m not commenting either way on the mental impairment.’



When Vicky allegedly met with the medical examiner is not specified in the article.  




"MECHANICAL CAUSE" ARE THE ACTUAL WORDS OF VICKY.


The following is a conversation between a friend of mine, Renee S. DeCamillis and Vicky

in March 2018, a month before the article ( Alt. Nation; April, 13th/18) was published.


Renee took a screenshot of her conversation with Vicky (before Renee ended up blocked by Vicky) in regards to Chris’s mental impairment and his physical injuries. Additionally, the conversation was Vicky's first acknowledgment of Chris's head injury.


*I personally witnessed Renee and Vicky's exchange the moment it occurred.




Observe Vicky’s wording: “. . .was simply they were not mechanical cause. It has since been misinterpreted and has caused confusion.” Vicky claiming ". . . the drugs did not contribute to the cause of death" in Chris's autopsy report . . . were not mechanical cause."


"MECHANICAL CAUSE" are the words, in the strongest of likelihoods, by Vicky.

Mechanical cause" attributed to the medical examiner is a strong falsehood.


Nowhere in Chris Cornell's autopsy report is "mechanical cause" noted.


Vicky's claim of "mechanical cause" in her post captured above (March 1st 2018) 

is one year and five months after her reported cancelled meeting with the medical examiner due to her and her insurance lawyer's extreme unpunctuality (Alt. Nation; Oct, 10th/2017)


A discussion with Theodore Brown M.D. never happened.




Chris's Post-Mortem Toxicology: Therapeutic/non-lethal levels.


- Naloxone (Narcan) administered to Chris after he died.

Narcan is used for overdoses from opioids.* Chris did not have opioids in his system.


- Butalbital (barbiturates) 5.4mcg/mL

Butalbital is a seditive.*


- Ativan (Lorazepam) 41ng/mL

Ativan used to treat anxiety.*


- Pseudoephedrine (decongestant) 170ng/mL

Pseudoephedrine to treat nasal and sinus congestion.*


- Norpseudoephedrine (Synonym: Phenylpropanolamine) 10 ng/mL

Norpseudoephedrine is a decongestant.*





"A LIVING SAINT WITH A THORNY CROWN. . ."

Seemingly, Vicky perpetuates that the medical examiner was erroneous in ruling out drugs as the cause of death.



Why the strong need to demonstrate that drugs indeed contributed to Chris's abrupt death?

 

Where is Theodore Brown M.D. to speak on the matter in his own words?


Why are Vicky's claims taken automatically for face value without any strong evidence to back them up?



Alt. Nation; (Oct, 10th/2017) introduces the notion that Chris’s death was actually

". . . much more complicated than everybody has been lead to believe.


The dialogue attributed to the medical examiner, is similar to Vicky's diction she's supposedly recounting with the medical examiner within the article.


Additionally, they are contradictions regarding mental impairment and Chris's supposed suicide.


She also described her meeting with the Detroit medical examiner over Chris’ cause of death.

“I asked him what he meant. I said to him, ‘What do you mean the drugs did not contribute to the cause of death?’ We know that he was impaired, I called the security guard to break down the door, it was clear, you know what was in his system.’ He said, ‘I’m not talking about mental impairment. I’m talking about the mechanical cause of death. The drugs did not have anything to do with how he actually died. They didn’t cause an overdose, they didn’t cause him to have a heart attack. I’m just saying that it didn’t contribute to the mechanical cause of death, I’m not commenting either way on the mental impairment.’

Then he went on to explain that suicide trumps all. I didn’t even understand, what does that mean, suicide trumps all? Because suicide means you took your life, right, albeit intentionally. But how can there be intentionality if somebody is impaired? If he was impaired enough that he couldn’t drive a car, that he wouldn’t be able to sit and take a deposition, social services would take children away if he would be with them in that condition. So if he had control of his faculties, would he have done the same thing if he was in the right state of mind?


That really got to me, because I thought for example if someone were to go out and shoot somebody, we’re going to look at the cause of death. If it’s murder 1, murder 2, manslaughter, intentional, unintentional, under the influence, temporary insanity, we look into all of these different causes. But then when it’s suicide, it’s, ‘Oh yeah, it’s your problem,’ and lumped all into one. I want to know what caused my husband to do that, I know that Chris had no suicidal ideation ever, and this made no sense.”




1. Why does Vicky keep insisting that Chris unintentionally took his own life (allegedly) while impaired?

" . . .how can there be intentionality if somebody is impaired?"



2. How would Chris have the mental and physical coordination to have, allegedly, rigged up

an apparatus to supposedly hang himself with in a short span of time while Vicky also states:

"If he was impaired enough that he couldn’t drive a car, that he wouldn’t be able to sit and take a deposition, social services would take children away if he would be with them in that condition.



3. Vicky continues posing the same question of impairment vs. a clear state of mind, posing an inquiry if Chris would have "hanged himself" by his own sober choice.

"So if he had control of his faculties, would he have done the same thing if he was in the right state of mind?"



4. If Vicky was so concerned about her husband's state of mind that he, allegedly, committed suicide, why did she have Chris's body cremated so quickly?  

“I want to know what caused my husband to do that, I know that Chris had no suicidal ideation ever, and this made no sense.”


To reiterate, Vicky had Chris's body cremated six days after his death:

Tuesday May, 23rd/2017.


Chris Cornell's Remains Cremated Ahead of Private Funeral Service. - Blabbermouth.net (published Wednesday May, 24th/17.)




Vicky's supposed questions and concerns arousing five months after Chris's death,

and well after her conscious decision to have Chris's body cremated six days after his death,

makes zero sense.




DR. RICHARD J. COTE: CONTRADICTIONS TO CHRIS'S REPORTED DEATH.


Lastly, "Dr. Richard J. Cote", the chair of the department of pathology at the

University of Miami Miller School of Medicine, Richard J. Cote MD, FRCPath, FCAP

is quoted:

“There is clear evidence of drug ingestion leading to impaired behavior. The drugs that were found, and their levels, strongly indicate doses that would impair mental or motor function individually, but have much more powerful effects when found in combination."


What " . . . drugs that were found, and their levels,. . . " is Dr. Cote referring to?

Would they be the Ativan and the sedative butalbital found in Chris system?


Also, Dr. Cote's quote, above, differ (Alt. Nation; April, 13th/18) from his assertion


I emailed Dr. Cote inquiring on his comment on the "two drugs found in his (Chris's) system."

Chris would've been extremely incapacitated, in strong likelihood, from the dosages of

Ativan ("Lorazepam" 41 ng/mL " . . . to treat anxiety disorders.") and Butalbital (5.4 mcg/mL

". . .a member of the drug class barbiturates and is used to treat Light Sedation." )


The Ativan and butalbital, individually, were of therapeutic ranges (safe dosages) but,

" . . . much more powerful effects when found in combination." With the comments, thus far, supposedly asserted from Dr. Cote, strongly contradicts Chris's death of a suicide by hanging.


*Post-Mortem analysis to be published soon.




Dr. Cote's two statements compared go from ". . .may have resulted in impaired judgment."

(in February 21st, 2018)  to "There is clear evidence of drug ingestion leading to impaired behavior." (in April 13th, 2018)


Why do the comments differ in two months?


Did a medical professional provide his opinions through an "independent analysis" or were the assertions concocted?

 

 




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